The shootings at Virginia Tech didn’t effect me, I think, because I was waiting to have some information to hang my feelings onto. I don’t seek out the news much. Almost never on TV, and if I’m looking at news on the net I’m likely half a minute away from finding something better to do. I gathered it was the “worst shooting in modern American history,” and that’s bad, but these things are bound occasionally to be the worst so far. Thirty-three people, that’s awful. Could have been twice as many if it was a bus driver went off his nut rather than a kid with a handgun.
Something clicked when I heard on NPR while driving in to work that the shooter was a student from South Korea. Not someone who’d spent a lifetime steeped in America’s alleged gun-crazy culture (a culture which, by the way, I’ve had almost zero contact with despite having at home several firearms). Not someone who was bullied throughout high school and finally reached the end of his rope and picked up a trenchcoat and a list and a shotgun. Not someone who was desperate to maintain his place amongst local gangsters. Just a kid from another country, smart and hard-working enough to get into a prestigious American university, a kid who, sometime in the past year or so, completely lost his way.
It may be the Columbine incident offers the nearest similarity. I can imagine the young man far from home, feeling isolated hence resentful, possibly subject to occasional barbs from the local rednecks. Maybe a girl dumped him in a particularly cruel way. Maybe he lost himself in endless rounds of Doom or something similar and at some point in his private journey, nursing his need to lash out, simply lost all fellow feeling. That he was from another country shows this is not a peculiarly American trait. That he was in western Virginia might have made the guns easier to get than in, say, New York City, but not a lot easier. Even Seoul has gun crime.
I am very sorry that so many families were torn apart and will remain so. But I’m not giving their pain special attention because horrific crimes that slaughter innocents happen every day, and I’m numb. There is nothing about being at Virginia Tech that makes a person’s death more significant than in some marketplace or bus stop in Baghdad. The entire world is awash in a terrible sense, spreading throughout the human tribe, that at some weird personal level it is acceptable to kill total strangers, people who have done nothing to deserve it. Whether this happens to students in the U.S. or to Shia worshippers in Iraq or to Buddhist teachers in southern Thailand makes no difference to me. It happens, for different reasons, for reasons that make an evil sort of sense to the perpetrators, but it happens, every damn day. I’m aware of it one way or another, every damn day, and I’m very sorry for the students' families and for the people of Blacksburg, Virginia, but their pain, our pain, my pain, once it soaks into their lives, will simply be more of the same. They say America is a violent place but the truth is, the entire world is a violent place, and all this incident shows us is that America is not immune.
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I'm numb too, Don. It's a tragedy but every day is a tragedy.
You've posted another good dose of even-handed perspective, as I've come to expect from you.
and I’m sorry, people of Blacksburg, Virginia, but your pain, our pain, my pain, is simply more of the same
So your reaction to feeling unaffected, rather than just letting it go without saying anything at all, is to publicly address the people who were affected, specifically to let them know you're indifferent to their pain? It's not that I don't get your point, but... geez, man, you're in public here. It's just kind of mean.
kind of mean
Yes, I think that part needs rewriting to more reflect how I really feel. I'm not indifferent to their pain. It's overwhelming right now. I think what I was feeling was not the indifference I described. More that it just goes on and on: there will be more somewhere else tomorrow. I think I'm reacting against what I expect from the American media, which will be (I presume, I'm not paying attention to American media) to accentuate the tragedy far more than the tragedies they ignore elsewhere, and it's supposedly unexpected nature. It's not unexpected, to me. This shit is going on everywhere.
So I just rewrote it a little bit, I think it's better, a little less cold, and truer.
It was a shock. I feel the pain, as it's presented in the news and as I feel it from other stories too. Maybe a bit more here cuz my daughter's going away to college next year, but I feel it when reading of horrific auto accidents as well. I think I get that you're not trying to diminish anyone's reactions, just that there's so much to react to, everywhere. Right now as we're discussing this, there are other awful things happening somewhere else. We probably won't hear about most of them.
It is overwhelming. Sorry for sniping.
Hang on. I say that it was a bit masturbatory, and I'm on an idiotic reach. Jen points out the same callousness and that's omg, should rewrite?
This is what I was referring to:
"That he was from another country shows this is not a peculiarly American trait."
Your whole post seems almost exultatory over its not being a Yank. It's what you focused on: not the pain of those affected (you dismissed that as unimportant, as Jen noted) but the ethnicity of the shooter. How you have the fucking nerve to call me a racist escapes me. You are one of the grossest nationalists I commonly converse with.
Your whole post seems almost exultatory over its not being a Yank.
Your fucking kidding me, that you could read it that way. What clicked was that it was a sort of international Everyman, rather than someone "steeped in America’s alleged gun-crazy culture" as early comments I had read here and there alleged. People say this was one result of America's addiction to guns, but that the perp was not entirely of this culture suggests otherwise. Where is the exultation?
the pain of those affected (you dismissed that as unimportant
Not unimportant, nor dismissed. But over one hundred people were killed in Baghdad today. I can't bear all that grief and I refuse to select American dead for special treatment.
the ethnicity of the shooter
That was you. I mentioned he was originally from another country, because that might (or might not) have cultural significance. You assumed that being from this country would not mean being Asian, and so you chose to point out his being Asian as if it meant something.
Could have been twice as many if it was a bus driver went off his nut rather than a kid with a handgun.
Hmm.
Average hand gun crime deaths per year?
Average "bus driver went off his nut" deaths per year?
Apples and oranges.
Apples and oranges.
Hmm.
What was your point, then, in bringing up the bus driver?
Did you see Archer's description of the capacity of the handgun? Scary thing that just about anybody could pick up one of those with a driver's license and a few hundred dollars...
And the price of bullets is a bargain...
Average hand gun crime deaths aren't about angry individuals who decide one day to kill as many people as they can.
If you want to count all handgun crime against my bus driver, then you must count all automobile crime. If you consider driving while drunk to be a crime, then the automobiles turn out rather more deadly than the guns.
I saw archer's. Whether the ease of someone who has no criminal record or history of mental illness to get a handgun is alarming or comforting depends on your perspective. Perhaps on the kind of neighborhood you live in.
Cho had a history and it is possible that if more rigorously enforced, Virginia state law would have prevented him buying the weapons legally. Remains a matter of speculation if he would then have just got them some other way.
Sadly, he could have been expelled for his other behavior; yet even then, who's to say that after expulsion he wouldn't have just got a couple guns and come back anyway for revenge?
People and their pathologies can be scary when untreated or, as in the case in another part of the world, developed and utilized with the aid of explosive belts.
I guess my thesis would be that restriction (in this case of guns) is a less useful answer than improved mental health care for people who are a danger (not to mention better education and/or self-esteem for everyone). This philosophy also applies to other issues such as drugs, sex, etc.
Average hand gun crime deaths aren't about angry individuals who decide one day to kill as many people as they can.
No - but they are about angry individuals who decide one day to kill.
If you want to count all handgun crime against my bus driver, then you must count all automobile crime. If you consider driving while drunk to be a crime, then the automobiles turn out rather more deadly than the guns.
I must pardon myself - I guess I was sloppy and unclear. I was not including (in my thinking when I wrote that tidbit) hand gun "crimes" such as a four year old boy plugging his little brother while playing with his daddy's loaded handgun. I meant only intentional handgun crime. The crime in which "bad people" carry guns to get what they want (or want done)...
...compared to intentional automobile crime...
(Hmm. And which is more uselful to day-to-day society? Handguns or automobiles? Guns or butter?)
So, in that case, I still must only count automobiles used as intentional weapons to kill - such as in your driver who "went off his nut", not the drunken driver who doesn't really know he is playing with a loaded weapon.
I just thought your bringing up a bus driver killing off twice as many people was an unfair comparison. I don't know for a fact, but I would think that far fewer bus drivers or automobile drivers use their buses or cars to intentionally kill as do gun owners their guns to intentionally kill, but also - bus drivers and driving (as a whole) are very useful, functional parts of society. More useful than guns on a day to day basis? I guess it depends upon one's perspective.
And there is really no way to know whether his bus would be more deadly or not. Why not bring up a pilot? There ya go. A pilot could kill more people with his plane than a bus driver with his bus or a student with his semi-automatic handgun.
Why not? Because pilots (and bus drivers and drivers in general) don't use their tools as weapons against other people nearly as often as people with guns use their guns as weapons against other people.
On an unrelated note, I do think there should be stiffer penalties against people caught driving under the influence - like - hello - revoke licenses permanently. We all heard it in driver's ed - driving is a privilege, not a right.
Whether the ease of someone who has no criminal record or history of mental illness to get a handgun is alarming or comforting depends on your perspective.
Yes - I guess it does. And my perspective is shocked at how easily anyone - you, your neighbor, me can get that dangerous of a weapon. Semi-automatic? Come on. What good use could that kind of weapon come to in a "civilized" society?
People and their pathologies can be scary when untreated or, as in the case in another part of the world, developed and utilized with the aid of explosive belts.
Yeah - as in another case in this part of the world, developed and utilized with the aid of very big airplanes with very big explosive bombs...
Cars and buses are a zillion times more useful than guns.
To me this isn't about guns. A crazed angry individual has lots of ways to lash out, some of them more lethal than merely a pair of handguns.
True that access to guns just makes this sort of situation worse. But in a case such as Cho's, there's simply no way to prevent access. (This isn't entirely true, as he had documented mental health issues. That in my opinion is where the focus should be.)
Except one way, and that's to ban further purchases of them; and that as a solution is thoroughly unworkable. A cure worse than the disease.
(Not to ignore, but I'm not expanding this reply into why it's a good thing a non-criminal without mental health issues can get a handgun if they feel they need it, and why "semi-automatic" is a scare word that pretty much means nothing in the context of handguns.)
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