Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Choice Day

I wasn't going to blog this week. Too many unbloggable thoughts in my head. But it was Blog For Choice Day, a subject hard to ignore. So I got two basic thoughts on it right now, being as I’m all in favor of life AND liberty and the pursuit of happiness ‘n shit. (And I wrote this knowing that most readers would disagree with me, but oh well. Oh, and the next paragraph was almost an attempt at dark humor I should delete but never mind, it's past my bedtime.)

Is it a Choice, or is it a Child?

In other words, does the kid being got rid of have any rights, or is it really just something the mother can get rid of if she chooses, like, I don’t know, a finger. Well, why not. You have the right to chop off your finger if you want. It won’t grow back but the beauty of a fetus is, even if you do kill it, you can always grow another. Of course, if someone else kills it, say while killing you, they will be prosecuted for two murders, not just one, even in California, and that confuses me.

Anyway, point is, being pregnant when you don’t want to be is very damn inconvenient. Many women have had to dredge up truly heroic proportions of courage to bear a child they have no means to care for. Others have made the enormously difficult decision to terminate (let us not understate that difficulty!). Choices all round. But we don’t make choices in a vacuum. If we are moral people, we must take into account the consequences our choices have for other people. So the question remains, is the fetus someone with rights, or is it not? If you cannot answer that question immediately with unequivocal proof that it is not, then there is doubt, and in every just society I have ever heard of, the benefit of the doubt goes to the living.

Besides, a choice was made when a potentially fertile couple chose to have sex. The risk of pregnancy was known. Kind of like the risk of killing someone is known when you start your car while blind drunk. If there’s a predictable consequence, I’m not sure what makes the choice to ignore that consequence so sacred.

You Can Take My Right To Privacy When You Pry It From My Cold Dead Fingers

Self-determination is one thing we all agree is sacred. Not everyone believes in natural rights, and I’m not eddicated enough to argue for or against the concept, but I’m sure everyone within reading range agrees that each individual at least has the right to express themselves, to say what they want, to have some control over their own privacy. Roe v Wade established a woman’s right to an abortion as an extension of her right to privacy. That pretty much ends the discussion as far as a lot of people are concerned. They aren’t going to let the gummint decide something so important – though how much they object to gummint having authority over public smoking or gun ownership or marijuana use or “hate” speech or control of rents or the sale of sexual services etc. etc. is always to be seen. It appears we all have opinions as to where our privacy really ends and our responsibility to others begins – opinions that differ, because we all differ, because we all come from different backgrounds and have slightly different perspectives on what privacy really means.

In 1973 when Roe v Wade was established, this was in many ways a different country. Rights to privacy and free speech that we take for granted today were not yet established. But they were on the march. Recent years had seen massive movements in defense of free speech, of political opposition, etc. Meanwhile, there were still laws against many consensual sexual acts, against many types of speech we today consider protected, and the last laws against mixed-race marriages were only recently overturned. A momentum had built to relegate all those antiquated laws to history's dustbin. At the same time, the unsafe conditions created by the deadly combination of prejudice against unwed mothers and inadequate abortion facilities had enabled a horrible kind of back-alley slaughter. Scared young women who had exercised their natural rights to sexual activity and wound up pregnant were at risk of being killed by unprofessional abortionists taking advantage of their fear and desperation. Roe v Wade was a natural response to these converging trends. In one stroke, a major blow was made in defense of privacy, of sexual freedom, and of feminine emancipation. What of the child? Well, it was unfortunate, and not everyone agreed that the life was really a life, and in the end privacy concerns trumped the question. I wondered how that was possible, how privacy could be found more important than the question of life, until I remembered more about the early 1970s.

At that time, there was a thing called the Marital Rape Exemption. It was recognized as valid in every state. A man could not be prosecuted for forcing sex on his wife. A woman who was raped had no recourse if the rapist was also her husband. I remember when a wife-rape conviction made the news simply for being a conviction. I believe it was in the late 1970s. Prior to that, this brutal crime and its perpetrator were covered by the right to privacy.

Child abuse was also far more common than it is today. I have no data – just ask enough of your friends who were children then. Look at the wealth of resources available to both prevent and recover from child abuse that didn’t exist just ten or twenty years ago. This is a little more anecdotal, but I’m sure most people would agree that as we go back in time, the prevalence of child abuse is likely to increase. It did not appear as a result of 1960s permissiveness or some such nonsense. Child abuse is a generational issue that goes back and back and back. The past two or three decades have been the first time in human history that there have been effective trends to prevent it. But in 1973 if you saw a bruised face or a burned arm on a child or for that matter a mother slapping her child silly in the grocery store parking lot, chances are you shook your head and regretfully acknowledged a family’s right to privacy. And forget sexual abuse. You know it happened, a lot. You also know it was rarely reported, and reports rarely taken seriously.

Roe v Wade was passed in this atmosphere of respecting privacy. Society has evolved since then, but we still accept Roe v Wade. It’s a complex political issue and as such it is much more difficult to change our attitude towards it than to, say, pass a law requiring teachers to report evidence of abuse. But an entire generation has passed, and in my opinion it may be time, with rationality and compassion, to take another look. Not necessarily to write more restrictive laws, but certainly to reconsider, as we must always do periodically, our underlying assumptions.

UPDATE 1/23: More from a nice Catholic lesbian libertarian down in AZ.

12 comments:

Paula said...

Good post. I actually don't think about the privacy aspect all that much because, as you say, so many other things aren't private anyway. And I don't argue that a person should do whatever they want with their bod cuz there are loads of things you aren't allowed to do with your bod, and I'm okay with a lot of that, and there are medical procedures you're not allowed to have, etc. I just don't think of an early pregnancy as a "child." It's something, sure. It's human, of course, and not just a piece of human like a fingernail. But it's not a person with thoughts. After brain development it's a different story, and I'm okay with later restrictions on abortion, basically the whole trimester thing that Roe uses: some restrictions in the second, and lots in the third.

msb said...

I really think women have a much different view on this then men. but we all have the right to have a view. And we have the right to revisit old line thinking of any law. To clarify, reiterate, refine, revise, Or strike from the books, if thats what the majority rule. I think we still live in a free country....?

Dr Zen said...

A terrible, horrible post. Not as awful as that retarded woman you linked to, but still really bad.

This is what it's all about:

"Besides, a choice was made when a potentially fertile couple chose to have sex. The risk of pregnancy was known. Kind of like the risk of killing someone is known when you start your car while blind drunk. If there’s a predictable consequence, I’m not sure what makes the choice to ignore that consequence so sacred."

Sex is something you deserve to be punished for. Particularly women. If they dare to have sex, they deserve to be punished with babies. HOW DARE THEY try to escape their godgiven punishment! It says so in the Bible: Eve is punished for her disobedience with childbearing. HOW DARE the fucking bitches escape God's punishment, eh, Don?

"What of the child?"

I tell you what. Let's take them out at ten weeks and see how they do. If they survive a fortnight, we'll discuss their rights. Good for you?

Don said...

Dr. Zen, your comments here, as your recent blog postings, show very clearly that you are spending way too much time in that basement of yours.

There is nothing in what I've said to suggest sex deserves punishment. Wherever did you get that idea? (Don't quote me the Bible, I've less use for it even than you.) All I want to do is establish who has rights, and see that they are protected. If protecting the life of what might be a child looks like punishment to you, then sure, refer to your children as blobs of sperm all you want, I don't care.

Don said...

Barb, a lot of women do have a different view on it, of course cause of the intimacy, we are talking about your body after all. There are also a lot of women who are not so pro-choice, and I don't mean religious wack-jobs and the suppressed either. A newer sensibility (my added link illustrates). My concern is just not to be so complacent (as Zen for ex) that we understand rights properly. Former generations that we now see as repressive were quite convinced they had it right.

I celebrate Roe as a milestone in individual autonomy, but I think it was a milestone, not a destination. More evolution is required. A reactionary assertion that I would enable backward steps is not atypical of people who have made up and closed their minds.

I agree women see it differently, which is why I take the majority of my influence on this matter from women, not men.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that you have used the word "evolve" in the context of changing attitudes and opinions before. I just bring this up because it seems like you are moving backwards and want to use a term that implies otherwise. But, my point was, if you want to move backwards, there is nothing that says that is a bad thing. It does not mean we also have to revert to 50's attitudes on racism, child abuse, rock and roll, etc., although the abortion issue is necessarily tied strongly to some advances in women's rights and feminism. Proponents of "Choice" may be rightfully fearful of losing that ground.

msb said...

Best post I've read in a while. Get out the boxing gloves. Love it. Daisy Duke and Dr. Zen. Radical, high strung. Great reads for a look into the minds of people that seem to think they are alpha and the omega of the right thinking. Thanks Don for opening your blog to the boxing ring. If I wasn't so tired I'd have a story to tell....

Teacake said...

Well, as soon as I read this and before I clicked the comments I thought, "Zen will have been along to call him names." Shurnuff.

I really liked this post. Nor did I view it as suggesting that sex deserves punishment. Of course being a pro-life woman who is not a religious wacko, I am bound to see it that way. ;)

Mark In Irvine said...
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Mark In Irvine said...

I just stopped in "to get my fair share of abuse ..."

And when will you cunts wake up to the fact that a fertilised egg is no more "alive" than an unfertilised one?

I suppose you could say that I “assume” this, given that I’m not trained in genetics, biology, embryology, biochemistry, neurology, etc. I think I could do a pretty fair job of explaining my justification with some precision if I had a high-school biology textbook. I don’t have one handy, so I’ll do the best I can at the moment without one. I think if you do a little checking, though, I think you’ll be able to confirm the accuracy (in general terms) of what I’m about to say.

The zygote constitutes the sum of the genetic information contributed by the individual sperm and the individual egg, and contains everything it needs to grow and develop into the “human” as we know it: no human, laboratory intervention is required; no scientific technology; it is wholly self-contained, dependant on nothing external for directions and building materials for how to grow.

The zygote contains within itself everything necessary to allow its cells to differentiate and become the many specialized parts of the human organism (everything, except the food and warm, snuggly environment the mom provides). The “zygote” is the cell produced by the union of two gametes, the mature sexually reproductive cells, i.e., sperm and egg. The zygote is a new organism, an individual life form: it is a complex, organized system, composed of mutually interdependent parts functioning together.

Zygotes, given the natural environment they crave, become baby humans if left to their own devices. The zygote will become a full blown human with everything humans need to do what we do.

You are certainly free to think that a zygote is not a human life, just as you are free to think that the law of gravity doesn’t apply to you. In each case, however, you would be wrong.

Zygotes, and their multi-celled descendants before the cells become very differentiated, don’t look like human beings; wait a while, however (actually, you don’t have to wait very long), and the cell-mass will start to resemble a human “as you know it”. Maybe abortion doesn’t seem like taking a life as long as you don’t see a physical resemblance between the cell-mass and a human. Take a look at these pictures to see what abortion looks like: http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html You can find more pictures of you google “photos of abortions”.

Anonymous said...

I haven't read the other comments yet, but will go back and peruse them after I've posted.

I do believe that an unborn child has rights, but a different kind of rights. I think an unborn child has the right to a safe, secure, loving home and family that will permit it to grow up with some semblance of emotional stability and the capacity to live a responsible and fulfilling life.

I suppose in an ideal world, sex would never happen except in circumstances that would be conducive to the child's rights as described above.

But we don't live in an ideal world.

Certainly, some unplanned-for and unwanted children do thrive. Many do not.

Of course a choice is made and a risk is taken when people have sex. The burden of that risk is potentially borne exclusively by the woman. But the real burden is borne by the child who may come into the world with only one involved parent who doesn't have time, resources, or money to support it.

Anonymous said...

I agree that women has many views than man and always shows interest in speaking on different issues. They obey the freedom of right to speech. This needs to be given to them.