Monday, February 04, 2008

Stupor Tuesday

I guess a bunch of people vote tomorrow, including me. But since I registered as Decline To State, I can't vote for a presidential candidate unless I request a ballot from either the Democratic or the American Independent party. I really don't care to choose between Clinton and Obama -- I'll happily leave that to the more interested and qualified folks. Obviously I also can't be bothered with the American Independents (I think that's who also threw open their primary, don't really remember). If memory serves (love that phrase, learned it from Mr. Spock), they consider themselves to be strict constitutionalists, but they are not, holding instead a number of predictable right-wing positions. They mainly exist so a bunch of small-government malcontents can band together and have tax-deductible dinner meetings and feel they are doing something rather than sitting on their behinds complaining and you know what? Nothing wrong with that. It's like these idiots in my home town. I disagree with the Boy Scouts' and the Marines' gay exclusion policies but also disagree that the Berkeley City Council should strip public access away from them for it. However, I have to hand respect to the people of that city for getting down to the public meetings and doing something, whether I agree with it or not, rather than just sitting around complaining.

(That my position on the BSA etc. amounts to enabling bad policy is a good subject for another post. Not this one.)

(No cites for the Berkeley thing but basically, the city has driven Boy Scouts out of schools and the Sea Scouts away from the Marina, and is now trying to drive away a USMC recruiting post.)

So, this election. The really big issue in our great state has to do with adjusting a few Indian gaming arrangements. All I know about it comes from the TV commercials.

Vote YES because it will generate more gambling tax revenue for a state that is suffering a horrible budget shortfall, and the opposition is in cahoots with the casinos in Nevada.

Vote NO because it will benefit four tribes but none of the others, and the money won't go to education, and it's all a big scam anyway.

Well, I don't know. The one thing no one talks about is where this alleged windfall will come from.

It's a fact that California's Indians got screwed by history, not just via the initial slaughter of gun and disease but also by subsequent isolation and enforced impoverishment. They are to be commended for coming up with a means to attract revenue into the reservations. This helped spread some of the good fortune enjoyed by the tribe or two whose lands happen to sit above productive oilfields. I oppose gambling but I also oppose undue restrictions on what people can do, and if people can make a living running a casino, fine, let 'em.

Trouble is, a liberal attitude like this can lead to problems in the wider society. That's why we end up with laws against gambling or drug use or street-walking or smoking in restaurants. If an action harms others, even indirectly, it is appropriate to consider outlawing it. So California doesn't allow Nevada-style gaming. But the state doesn't have jurisdiction over the Indian reservations (until now, I guess, with this attempt to tax them somehow), and so here we are.

Here we are watching a crowd of proud and calm-visaged Native Americans assembled by a marketing team to maximize this powerful image and encourage a vote for a structural change that will allow the "in" tribes more slot machines and thus allow them to help not only themselves but our very cash-strapped state as well. Good message, but.

Casinos create no wealth whatsoever. They do an awesome job of redistributing it. They redistribute it FROM retired persons and gambling addicts and TO the gaming professionals and consultants who have either come from Atlantic City or defected from Nevada, and to the tribes that hired them, and to the local services that ride their coattails, and to the local governments that tax them in turn ... but it comes FROM retired persons, gambling addicts and (according to my unscientific surveys) Asian immigrants, who can ill afford it too but there are matters of culture to consider, I suppose.

This is really the crux of the matter to me. The money they are all talking about does not come from some industry that develops products of value to Mankind and sells them at a profit to the world, thus building California's economy (e.g. semiconductors, oil products, rice, almonds, movies, computer games etc.). It all comes from Californians who, to one degree or another, have a problem that the proximity of a casino is only making worse. And no one who thinks it's a good idea to fund police and firemen on the pocketbooks of even more families left on the edge of ruin by a gambling-addicted mother or father is going to get any support from me. So I will vote NO on those propositions, even if by doing so I'm not addressing the real problem. (Unless of course I change my mind before morning.)

UPDATE: Read about 'em here and am even more convinced they're a bad idea. All they do is allow more slot machines and give the casino operators a pass on environmental impact. The only difference between these sweetheart deals and the deals that handed so much of the state over to oil, water, gasoline, tire and large-scale farming interests in the past century is that those bad guys were white men in dark suits, whereas these are fronted by a few well-chosen representatives of everyone's favorite noble-visaged victims of same.

4 comments:

Paula said...

I voted for Hillary and no on all props. I don't have a strong opinion on gambling. Adults can do whatever dumb thing they want with their money, I guess. It's a bit weird that there are all these laws against gambling except for certain types, but whatev. Voted no because it seemed so unfair to give a few tribes a monopoly, plus I also read that the schools don't actually get much from it. Voted no on the term limits thing because it seemed like a fraud (actually increased terms).

Tomorrow should be an exciting day in the news, huh?

Don said...

Yeah. Can hardly wait. Did you just yawn? Someone made me yawn.

Dr Zen said...

Me, I'm a libertarian and I oppose government restrictions on personal choices. Weird, isn't it, that you consider yourself a classical liberal but want to legislate anything that seems like it might be fun. It doesn't really cause wider problems. Gambling "addicts" don't rob banks in the main. Your thesis on drug use is also incorrect, ditto streetwalking. These things are banned because they offend public morals, not because they cause crime. Indeed, it's their being illegal that causing crime. As in so many things, your positions on these things would make sense if you actually thought them through.

Your argument that gambling redistributes wealth is meh. The same can be said of cable television or bars. I suppose you can argue that bars provide work for people who make booze, but booze is a poison so maybe you should not encourage that either.

As you can imagine, I strongly endorse councils who punish discrimination by not allowing their amenities to be used by homophobes. Fuck the gayhaters. It's not fucking infectious, you know. No one forces you to do it. It's interesting that you think people who use the power they have to oppose discrimination are "idiots". You have posted support for haters before. Maybe you should have a think about what's driving your need to get behind people who want to exclude and hurt others.

Don said...

That was weird, Dr. Zen. I'm typically the libertarian while you're typically the socialist. I have espoused freedom for all, while you have chosen activities to suppress (e.g. gun ownership, however non-harmful). But now it switches over. Why?

Because you don't draw a distinction between street-walking and prostitution, for one thing. Street-walking does harm, like public smoking, which you would ban; whereas pursued out of the public eye, prostitution does not (except at the personal level, which is not government's concern). That drug use does not cause crime but only offends public morals is ridiculous. You of all people -- for you've often come out in favor of restrictions that would result in better public health (e.g. ban indoor public smoking). You must be very tired: not consistent, not making sense.

My problem isn't that casinoes redistribute wealth. They provide a service for it and as I said, that's fine. My objection is to this idea that taxing a mere wealth-redistributor can somehow help the state's fiscal problems. Since the casinos are not productive, the state is therefore only increasing its income by reducing the wealth that is in the hands of the general population. I object to this, especially since, coming from gamblers, it's mainly milk money the state is skimming from. Much prefer they work to increase our wealth creation and then take the benefits from that, e.g. through education, and the encouragement of industrial investment.

The situation with the Boy Scouts is not about supporting haters. If you knew anything at all, you would know that. I did acknowledge the problem with enabling discrimination. But as I said, that's for another day.